rblowry38 2007-01-14 18:40:26
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If they really wanted to make a differ. they would need to make the processor run cooler, a quiter drive(*maybe a built in hd dvd?) bigger H.D.D. and the hdmi output and maybe to be cool like the new ipods add the abilty to buy different color 360's for a custom look. but hey i'm no genius I just like those i deas |
remixFA 2007-01-14 09:08:36
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its all hippocratcy. Almost every console that has come out in the last 10-20 yrs, has also made an "updated version", the whole way back to the ATARI. Not one of them had a "buy back" policy. Its a load of crap, get over it. Your 360 is not inferior, and i have a 60inch 1080i set, and im not willing to shell out another 120 bux for a frikkin cable, much less 400 more for a new system, just so i can buy said cable, VGA and component looks tight, thats good enough. Everyone still comes over to my house to see the newest games in 1080 (read: GoW!!), and they look amazing. HDMI is not enough difference from that to justifiy the extra spending.
If they just made a "vga to hdmi" adapter cable, it would be fine, but then would it really be any different? |
Los Mi Nachos 2007-01-14 08:38:18
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I may not be an electronics wizard or a computer engineer, but if Microsoft is serious about going HDMI, wouldn’t it make more sense (and be cheaper in the long run) for them to take the existing A/V output and have it convert the 360’s information to HDMI for us super 50 inch HDTV owners who have HDMI ports as apposed to coming out with an entirely new 360 all together?
I have a 360 and think it is the most kick ass piece of hard wear I own in my home. But if we are talking about basically just adding some more silicon to the current 360 to make it HDMI compatible, why can’t they add that extra silicon to a cable. (And yes, I realize this would make the existing cable for the 360 larger then it already is)
This should appease the masses that already own 360 and don’t want to have to go thru the process of buying yet another 360. In know if the ability to make this cable is not possible, I am sure it will piss off a lot of existing 360 owners.
In the end though I have to say, I agree with hrbib21 and salvia, Apple has become the King of the ‘latest version’ (Ipod; nano, shuffle, video, Iphone… etc… etc… etc.) Apple is making more money then god with each new Ipod they make and no one seems to care. When Apple comes out with their latest version, consumers either have an obsolete machine, they are forced to upgrade or they suck it up and enjoy what they have already. Apple is not going to supply anyone with their ‘newer version’ (read: ‘capitalism’ in wikipedia). Why can’t Microsoft have a piece of that pie? |
WZ Poophead 2007-01-14 02:45:19
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Wow, know really knows what they're talking about huh? Hdmi IS a big improvement, for those of us with HDTVs over 50", mines 65". As far as less on the frame rate, which is better on a camera, 1/100ths or 1/1000? Faster actually is better. If your not conviced then stop by a high end A/V place and ask for a demo. As for me I put alot down on MS saying the 360 was High def. While 720 is twice as good as 480, 1080i or p is just that much better! On sets over 50" mind you. So now instead of the 1080 they promised, I have to settle on 720. In reality it was deceptive marketing, they should have called it 'Medium Def'! |
hrbib21 2007-01-13 21:09:41
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"The point is that us consumers who have supported the launch of the Xbox360 have been given an inferior product. If this new version of the 360 is released Microsoft owes us some sort of compensation."
Complete nonsense. How is it inferior? My 360 does exactly as it was described. Your definition of inferior seems to be "newer". Using your logic, I want my '05 Nissan Altima replaced with an '07. I'm screwed because "What happens when we want to sell our Nissan Altima/Xbox 360s on ebay"? |
remixFA 2007-01-13 19:44:04
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There is no reason for MS to have a "buy back" program of sorts. We were not sold an Inferior product. The component and vga cables are more than enough. If you really thing that the hdmi's .01% improvement over vga with a $110 cable upgrade is worth it go ahead. Most people do not have HDMI capability, MS made a console for the masses for the present, not for the few and 10 yrs from now when HDMI is commonplace. I do not want to pay the extra $$$ for HDMI. If i remember you cant do PiP w/ HDMI, which for me and my wife, is paramount so we dont fight over the tv :)
If HDMI is so much better, and so important, why dont more PS3 games look better compared to their 360 counterparts????
Just give me a 100-200 gig HDD and ill be happy. oh yea, and more HDDVD movies for my player!! |
Ra2205 2007-01-13 17:31:27
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i think that for the existing 10 million xbox 360 owners should at least get the 120 gb hard drive if this new xbox come out. i don't rely care for the hdmi |
Spartan117458 2007-01-13 14:51:05
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Personally, I think HDMI is useless, as "True HD" 1080p does not look as good as 1080i, which has been around a lot longer. This is especially noticable during periods of high action and movement (which happens to be most video games) because 1080p is constantly showing 30fps, meaning it lags more, whereas 1080i is smoother becuase it is only showing half the frames at one time. Also, component video is more reliable and is much cheaper than HDMI. The only reason Microsoft would include it would be because of Hollywood and their precious HDCP for HD DVD a, which is not all that great (neither is Blu-ray). The only way i would buy an upgrade w/ an HDMI port would be if it had other good features to justify it, such as a larger HDD. |
salvia 2007-01-13 10:27:57
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Sony released the Slim version w/ increased memory and the world didn't collapse. Suck it up, buy the new drive if you want space. Buy the new box if you want the HDMI. Like Hrbib said, no one sent me a new color screen 80GB ipod when my 40GB 4G non color ipod was made obsolete. |
Matt 2007-01-13 09:56:03
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It's a very tough call. I for one can't see them accepting consoles back (plus maybe some cash) in exchange for new ones with the HDMI port. What are they gonna do with millions of unwanted, non-HDMI consoles? |
Jacksmith28 2007-01-13 09:14:12
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I agree with Splenius. What happens when we want to sell our Xbox 360s on ebay or something when the new xbox comes out, and nobody wants ours because they know it's older, and they know theres no HDMI port. |
Splenius 2007-01-13 03:30:25
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The point is that us consumers who have supported the launch of the Xbox360 have been given an inferior product. If this new version of the 360 is released Microsoft owes us some sort of compensation. |
hrbib21 2007-01-12 23:55:33
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I don't understand someone complaining about this situation. We all bought the 360 knowing what it is that we were getting. There are no secrets here. If anyone had a problem with not having and HDMI port then they should've waited. I have an HDTV with two HDMI ports and I'm not complaining. How anyone can expect Micro$oft, or any other company for that matter, to somehow reimburse them because of a product upgrade is unbelievable. I sure didn't get an upgraded Nano when Apple came out with them this year. |